{"id":25286,"date":"2020-04-24T09:40:39","date_gmt":"2020-04-24T13:40:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tiie.w3.uvm.edu\/blog\/?p=25286"},"modified":"2022-04-29T14:57:29","modified_gmt":"2022-04-29T18:57:29","slug":"trauma-informed-distance-learning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tiie.w3.uvm.edu\/blog\/trauma-informed-distance-learning\/","title":{"rendered":"Trauma-informed distance learning, with Alex Shevrin Venet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The need for trauma-informed practice is particularly salient during the current global pandemic, when many if not all of us are experiencing trauma daily. And educators are working hard to translate trauma-informed practice to emergency remote learning.<\/p>\n<p>Luckily, we have experts like Alex Shevrin Venet engaged in the current moment. She&#8217;s a local Vermont educator with global reach, writing on trauma-informed education <a href=\"https:\/\/unconditionallearning.org\/\">at her blog<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AlexSVenet?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\">on twitter<\/a>, \u00a0and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.edutopia.org\/profile\/alex-shevrin-venet\">for publications like edutopia.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In concert with Tim O&#8217;Leary, co-director of What&#8217;s the Story, we organized a &#8220;Lunch n&#8217; Learn webinar&#8221; for Alex to take a global audience a little farther in unpacking trauma-informed distance learning. We asked attendees to read a couple of Alex&#8217;s recent articles, then tune in for an hour and send Alex their questions. The 500 seats at in our Zoom room filled up in a matter of hours. The questions? Were amazing.<\/p>\n<p>Tim produced a video of the conversation with Alex, and a full transcript is available below. Spend some time listening to Alex and her recommendations for how we as educators can be responsive in supporting students with trauma-informed distance learning.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Lunch &amp; Learn with Alex Shevrin Venet:  Trauma-Informed Distance Learning\" width=\"525\" height=\"295\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yzkSQS-ESPE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong>\u00a0 Hi, everybody. Hi, everyone. Welcome, welcome everyone. I\u2019m Alex. I\u2019ll introduce myself more in just a moment.\u00a0 Welcome to all. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">I want to draw your attention on the slide in front of you that we have a link to a <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/document\/d\/1kUfN5-1UxEj8ZKxMtJi4Eknb8YTRflVDOgRCEJ9qf7E\/edit\"><span class=\"s2\">resource page.<\/span><\/a> <\/span><span class=\"s1\">If you were tweeting, this launch and learn, feel free to use the <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/vted?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ehashtag\"><span class=\"s2\">#vted hashtag.<\/span><\/a>\u00a0 That\u2019s our Vermont education hashtag and we love to see your thoughts on there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/document\/d\/1kUfN5-1UxEj8ZKxMtJi4Eknb8YTRflVDOgRCEJ9qf7E\/edit\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-25394\" src=\"https:\/\/tiie.w3.uvm.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/lunch_and_learn_flyer.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"285\" srcset=\"https:\/\/tiie.w3.uvm.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/lunch_and_learn_flyer.jpg 809w, https:\/\/tiie.w3.uvm.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/lunch_and_learn_flyer-300x190.jpg 300w, https:\/\/tiie.w3.uvm.edu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/lunch_and_learn_flyer-768x486.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">A couple of quick introductions, I\u2019m Alex Venet, coming at you from Winooski, Vermont.\u00a0 I\u2019m a professional development facilitator and educator.\u00a0 I teach community college. And I teach in-service teachers through graduate courses, and I write and I do a bunch of other stuff. My focus is on trauma informed education and social emotional learning and equity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Life, do you want to introduce yourself?<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:<\/strong>\u00a0 Sure, thanks, my name is Life LeGeros. I\u2019m in the foothills of the Green Mountains here in Vermont, in South Duxbury. I use he\/him pronouns and I\u2019m just so excited to be here. Thank you, Alex for inviting me.\u00a0 I know how much your work is respected across Vermont, with partner educators who I work with as well as across the country and the globe.\u00a0 I always learn a lot from you, so I appreciate it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong>\u00a0 So, Life and I are going to be basically just having a conversation about our current state of emergency distance learning, and trauma, and how we navigate all of this.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">A couple of logistical things: <\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I\u2019m going to do a couple of really quick getting ready to learn things activities for us to get in this space together.\u00a0 <\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Then I\u2019ll have just really quick opening thoughts just to situate us. <\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And then we\u2019ll really dig into some questions and answers, including questions that you all have asked ahead of time as well as questions that folks in the webinar, put into our Q&amp;A, which I\u2019ll talk about again in a second; <\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">then we\u2019ll wrap up.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">With that we\u2019re going to do a couple of really quick getting-ready-to-learn pieces that I like to do whenever we start our learning experience.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">First, I like to take a moment and just get grounded. Check in with yourself.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">In a moment what I\u2019m going to do is turn off my camera for 30 seconds and just take a second to get settled. And I encourage you to take that moment for yourselves as well.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Some things that you might do:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">you might drop your shoulders;<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">or see if your jaw has clenched throughout your day;<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">you might want to notice your breathing and just kind of check in with how that\u2019s going;<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">you might want to stretch, or move your body a little bit.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If it doesn\u2019t feel right to check in with your body right now, maybe just look at your surroundings. Ground yourself in where you are, what\u2019s around you or what\u2019s in your environment.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And if you\u2019re in need of a little bit of an energy, you can do just this really simple exercise: rub your palms together to create a little energy and heat, then press one hand over your heart. Just feel that energy that you have.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Or you can just sit there and stare or check Twitter &#8212; or do whatever &#8212; for 30 seconds. It\u2019s really up to you. But I\u2019m going to take that moment for myself and I will see you back here in 30 seconds.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>**<em>thirty seconds pass<\/em>**<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And I\u2019m back. I hope that was a good grounding moment for you. <\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The other piece that I like to do as we come into any learning experience is to check in with those around us and see what folks are bringing to the learning space.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So, the activity I like to do is called Rose and Thorn. Really simple, you just say a Rose, which is something going well for you today, and a Thorn, which is something not going so well.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If you are watching the livestream, feel free to drop your rose and thorn on Twitter, using that VTed hashtag or turn to someone in your space and share a rose and thorn or just think about what that is for you today. Life, what\u2019s your rose and thorn today?<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> My rose? This morning I woke up to a coating of fresh snow.\u00a0 It was really refreshing and nice.\u00a0 And it\u2019s kind of interesting because yesterday that same thing happened and was more of a thorn for me.\u00a0 So to me that shows we\u2019re very quick to adapt, and also things hit you differently in different moments.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">For my thorn&#8230; I think you know this is an amazing opportunity.\u00a0 We have people all over the globe who are joining us.\u00a0 That\u2019s super cool, but now that we\u2019re actually here and chatting, I wish we were together.\u00a0 You know, I wish we were hanging out.\u00a0 I could talk to you about this stuff forever, maybe in a big room with all these folks too. \u00a0But we\u2019ll make the best of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong> My thorn is that snow from this morning. Partially because here in my town it didn\u2019t stick, so we didn\u2019t even get the benefit of it looking nice outside or anything. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">And my rose would be just this opportunity. I guess my rose and thorn are exact opposite of you; my rose is the opportunity to talk to folks this morning.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So actually we ended up with a weirdly great example of how the same exact events can just hit really different for people.\u00a0 I\u2019m seeing in the chat that a lot of people also have roses and thorns connected to the weather.\u00a0 Thorns connected to the stress and isolation that we\u2019re all feeling. Roses include some of the connections people are having.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> I see a lot of roses around hiking and getting outdoors more these days. things like that. Which is really important.<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">I like the rose and thorn activity in part because it allows us to just be mindful of what other folks are bringing to a learning experience, or to a collaboration experience. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">I highly encourage folks to use the activity when you go out to other meetings and gatherings.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">All right. So: a couple of reminders here before we get started, around taking what you need.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The first is that anytime that we talk about trauma, mental health, or stress, it can be difficult or stressful for people to engage with that topic. So feel free to give yourself permission to take breaks. To step away from this if you need to. Just take care of your needs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I am definitely not here to tell you what to do. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">You are the person who knows you and your students; you know your situation best. I\u2019m here to offer some thoughts and take what you need out of them. And I also just want to clarify that we\u2019ll be talking about trauma, and maybe some things that might be traumatic. But I won\u2019t be sharing any specific stories or details or images of traumatic things.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And finally, I want to remind folks that this is the public space. So if you\u2019re asking questions or using the chat, just encouraging folks not to be sharing any personal information or stories about students that are not yours to share.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/twitter.com\/innovativeEd\/status\/1250820622231486467<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So with that, I\u2019m just going to talk for a quick moment about some overall thoughts around trauma in our current situation.\u00a0<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"> I hope many of you have had the chance to look at the resources that we provided. And really, you know, my thoughts are going in many places these days, but<\/span><span class=\"s1\"> I keep coming back to this idea that: w<\/span><span class=\"s1\">e can be mindful that trauma looks different for everyone. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">But as a globe right now, we\u2019re kind of living through a large community trauma. And that\u2019s going to impact everybody differently.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So as educators, we really want to think about how to center care in everything that we\u2019re doing. We want to be responsive to the hardship that a lot of people are going through.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I have these things I call Four Priorities and those are really my guideposts for how I think about my trauma-informed practice. Those are:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul class=\"ul1\">\n<li class=\"li2\"><span class=\"s1\">Predictability<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"li2\"><span class=\"s1\">Flexibility<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"li2\"><span class=\"s1\">Connection<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"li2\"><span class=\"s1\">Empowerment<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I really come back to those a lot of times when I\u2019m thinking about how to structure an activity, or how to do outreach or change policies or anything like that. So I may be referring back to those as we chat.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Now let&#8217;s just dive into some of these questions we have.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> Fantastic, thank you Alex.\u00a0 I so enjoy the readings. And I appreciate the opportunity today to dig a little deeper or to expand a bit.<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">The first question we\u2019re going to start with: Alex, a lot of your writing &#8212; not all of it, but much of it &#8212; is directed towards supporting students who have experienced trauma.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">How can districts and schools support educators who might be experiencing their own trauma during this time?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong> This is such an important question and sometimes this is the last consideration that we get to when we talk about student trauma. When in fact, it really should be the first. I<\/span><span class=\"s1\">f we as caregivers are not well, it is really hard and sometimes impossible to really provide care for others.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So one thing I want to say to every person out there, whether you\u2019re a teacher or a parent or really any role of humanity ever, is that, <strong><em>it is okay to not be okay right now<\/em><\/strong>. \u00a0Ae all need to drop the expectation that there is an okay right now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">We\u2019re living through a global pandemic. And regardless whether on any given day you feel safe, or settled, or not safe or anxious. We\u2019re still in this big context where the planet is not okay right now.\u00a0 I keep seeing this phrase \u201cThe new normal.\u201d And I may have even used that one myself, but there isn\u2019t really a new normal. Because this isn\u2019t normal. So I think the starting point really is validating that all of that is all right and starting there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Beyond that, you know, I kind of think about two layers, right?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"> So, one is directly speaking to teachers. Reminding folks that it is important to take care of ourselves so we can take care of the kids. But that doesn\u2019t mean you have to somehow elbow through on your own, you know? Healing and resilience comes through our community and our relationships with others.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I encourage folks to think: who are your support people? How might you be vulnerable and lean on them?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I highly, highly, highly encourage everyone to check in with your therapist, if you have one. And if you don\u2019t have one, therapists are moving things online. <a href=\"http:\/\/talkspace.com\">There are apps like <\/a><span class=\"s2\">Talkspace,<\/span> where you can access somebody, virtually.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If you have a faith leader you connect to. If you have a supportive group of folks you can talk to. Or if you have a partner or a family member or friend. Really reach out. It\u2019s okay to ask for help.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I encourage folks to use those supports and to take it slow, right?\u00a0 We&#8217;re in a marathon, not a sprint. So don\u2019t burn yourself out in these first few weeks. \u00a0Because this is going to be a little while that we\u2019re all doing this.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The other thing I want to say in response to this is around school leaders.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">For those of you who are watching this who are maybe administrators or principals, or have any type of leadership role in a school, I want you to think about: what is the community care that you can offer to your teachers?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I know that you as an administrator are pulled in many directions right now. \u00a0But it really needs to be a priority to care for your teachers. So: <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Actually check in with them without an agenda. <\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;\">Don\u2019t tack a check-in onto a business meeting. Actually make time and really listen to what\u2019s going on for your teachers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>See what you can take off teachers&#8217; plates.<\/strong> Let them focus on what matters. See if there\u2019s any way you can pull some of the, you know, administrivia (or whatever) off their plates.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Remind them what resources are available.<\/strong> So many schools have an EAP &#8212; employee-assistance program &#8212; hotline that teachers can call. Those are those supports available to them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Also: model your own self-care and your work-life boundaries.<\/strong> Don\u2019t email your teachers at 10:00 at night and expect that they\u2019re going to get back to you right away.\u00a0 Encourage your teachers to step away from the computer in the evening. It really has to be a community effort really to take care of ourselves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life: <\/strong>Thank you, that was so interesting. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">As for boundaries, I\u2019ve even seen districts go so far as giving guidelines for how much time teachers should be putting into their school work per day.\u00a0 Like I saw one district said, you know, teachers should only be working five hours a day. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">And I\u2019m wondering from, you know, educators\u2019 perspectives. Do you have tips for people to be in touch with themselves, to understand when they\u2019re nearing, kind of a burnout point?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Working with educators, I see them work so hard; they\u2019re so dedicated. Just on the regular day-to-day, without this whole pandemic thing hanging over them.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Any signs people should be watching for within themselves that kind of say like, oh, that\u2019s a sign that I should be slowing down a little bit, or I should be taking a break?<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:\u00a0<\/strong> I mean, it\u2019s tough to answer that. Because with the general context of what\u2019s going on, I think it\u2019s probably going to be hard for people to separate out like:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">What is my general anxiety about our world right now?<\/span><\/li>\n<li>And what is my anxiety connected to work?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I think the simplest way is to just take breaks. Check in with yourself throughout the day.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">There\u2019s different apps you can use that are like mood-tracking apps, if that\u2019s something that folks are interested in. Or you can literally just set a timer on your phone so that every two hours, you\u2019re going stop, turn to a piece of paper and just write a sentence about how you\u2019re feeling.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But if you\u2019re with your family or a partner, try to have a consistent check in each night. Maybe reflect on your rose and thorn of the day or your high and low. &#8220;On a scale from 1 to 10, how did I feel today?&#8221; Kind of create routines so you can witness each other&#8217;s states. How you\u2019re doing. I think it\u2019s truly just taking that time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">know for me it\u2019s very easy to just get sucked into the computer. It feels like there\u2019s an endless stream of things I could be doing on my laptop all day. So those lunchtime breaks have been really helpful to check in with my partner. It has been really helpful in just slowing down.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> Awesome, thank you.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">So, this is another question that came up before today. A lot of people were interested in this. It references the fact that you focus on relationships with students as an important part of educator practice, and a key to resilience during this time.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">How can teachers foster relationships among students during remote learning?<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Yes, so this focus on relationships if you look at, you know, all of the literature and what we know about trauma-informed practice, relationships help.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Bruce Perry, who is a leading child trauma expert researcher, says that the best intervention for trauma is anything that increases the strength and number of relationships in a child\u2019s life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So I recommended to people to really center that relationship. I think many of us can think of ways to do that as teachers, right? We can be working with students and connecting with them and things. So, this question about how do we encourage other relationships for kids *in between* students is a great one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">One asterisk I put on all of this right is that we don\u2019t want to force anything, right? A<\/span><span class=\"s1\">nd something I think a little bit about is students who were stressed about social interactions before. They may actually be enjoying their reprieve from that right now. Or they may continue to be stressed because social media is daunting. So they\u2019re still experiencing the stress of those social relationships.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">We don\u2019t want to get into like a forced group work situation where kids are now having more conflict because they have to collaborate on something, they didn\u2019t really want to collaborate on.\u00a0 So, couching it in that choice.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But beyond that, I think about, you know, what are the things that your students connected with when they were face-to-face? Did you have class in-jokes?\u00a0 Did you have fun, silly things that you would do? Or did you have routines around, you know, stuff that you would do as a class together?\u00a0 Did you have circle time where there were specific things that you talked about?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I would really think about any of those things that will feel familiar, how can we continue to incorporate that. And just making space for that silliness and fun, right?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So, I think sometimes I know when I sit down to type up instructions for my online learning stuff, I sometimes will go into this really formal register where I\u2019m like first one must enter their password into the Google classroom. \u00a0Like it just get really formal for some reason.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But try to write like you speak, use gifs, use emojis, make a video of yourself, put a sound recording.\u00a0 Try to create that like human centered space and synchronize ways too that kids can check in.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I know in my Community College class that I had to move online, we used to start with rose and thorn every week. \u00a0Now I just put up a rose and thorn discussion every week. And they check in with each other.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">We\u2019ve also started doing a little extra each week where like last week we shared Spotify playlists that we liked. \u00a0And then we shared TV recommendations.\u00a0 This week we\u2019re talking about what video games and apps we\u2019re all playing at home. \u00a0So, really just anything that helps kids connect.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And then the last thing I\u2019ll say about this is remembering that the students at your school are not the only peers that your students have.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So, many kids are involved in extracurricular sports youth groups, all those kinds of things. And so, you might prompt your kids to be, you know, writing postcards or sending the emails or selfies or whatever it is. \u00a0But it doesn\u2019t have to live just within your class.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> That\u2019s such a great point.\u00a0 I love the asynchronous ideas around check-ins. And I\u2019ve seen teachers doing that with tools like <a href=\"http:\/\/flipgrid.com\/\"><span class=\"s2\">Flipgrid<\/span><\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20220423084838\/https:\/\/padlet.com\/\"><span class=\"s2\">Padlet<\/span><\/a> where students can leave pictures or links or in some cases little videos to each other. \u00a0And it\u2019s actually a very strong way to connect when you just start talking like, you know, like this and you can see each other do that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:\u00a0<\/strong> Yes, I would shout out our friend Christine Nold, middle school teacher extraordinare! She\u2019s been sharing on Twitter each day the prompt that she\u2019s using in her advisory class. I think there\u2019s like 21 days that we\u2019ve been doing so far? So there\u2019s lots of ideas in there, different prompts and reminders. \u00a0Just a great example of someone expressing care through those posts.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"525\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">TA: Day Twenty-Three &#8211; Owls at night, birds at the feeder, and the beginning of break! <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/NmxB9ERbTA\">pic.twitter.com\/NmxB9ERbTA<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Christie Nold (@ChristieNold) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ChristieNold\/status\/1251145945879736322?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 17, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> Yes! I love one of the lines from one of your pieces of writing where you say: &#8220;You know, the way that you are delivering distance learning is an expression of care right now.&#8221; And that includes both through these kinds of things as well as curriculum. Awesome.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So, the next question that we flagged is kind of somebody sharing a personal example; I\u2019m asking for your take on it.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">A teacher was noting that they had a student who was upset with them, specifically that the teacher had shared information with the student&#8217;s guidance counselor.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Now, this is a case where the teacher and the student didn\u2019t have the best relationship in person before remote learning.\u00a0 And now this information-sharing has hurt the relationship.\u00a0 So, the teacher is asking for advice on how they can improve their relationship with the student now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:\u00a0<\/strong> I just appreciated this question because it highlights just how complicated things are, always! But especially right now, around boundaries and information-sharing. What is the role of a teacher?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So, I get really excited about boundaries.\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">This is a topic I\u2019m really interested in. Especially when we talk about trauma-informed practice.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I think a lot of teachers wonder: does trauma-informed practice mean I should be engaging in therapeutic interactions with my students? Does this expect me to become a social worker?<\/span><\/h4>\n<h5 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And my answer to that is no.<\/span><\/h5>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">It\u2019s important for teachers to have strong boundaries. And to be able to recognize when should I pass along information to someone who has the skills, training and expertise to better respond to it. If you want to prevent a situation like the on described, I really, really strongly encourage people to be checking in with your administrators and school counselors about what are the information-sharing processes and expectations right now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I think about that especially because teachers are mandated reporters. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So if there are things that cause you to suspect neglect or abuse for a child, you\u2019re mandated to report that. And every state has guidelines about how that happens.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But, then there\u2019s a whole category of other kind of concerning stuff that comes up in school. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Oftentimes, we address those things more informally at the end of the day. Maybe I wander into my colleague\u2019s room and I say: &#8220;My students have this thing today and it\u2019s kind of bugging me. What do you think about it?&#8221; And we have that kind of check-in and then can make those decisions about passing things forward.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">While we\u2019re all in our separate houses, I think that\u2019s harder to do. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So I really encourage people to be proactively communicating about that stuff and figuring out when and how should I be passing along information and what types.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">We should also be really transparent with students about that information-sharing. In what situations do we pass forward information, and what should students be aware of when sharing info?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And it\u2019s a great time to have that conversation, because we\u2019re also online!\u00a0 So, there is a difference between sharing a thought in a classroom circle and sharing a thought on Google Classroom where one of your peers could screenshot your post and share it to Instagram, right? We should just be openly having those conversations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">All that doesn\u2019t answer this teacher&#8217;s question because this has already happened for them. If you have a rupture in a relationship with the student the thing to do is try to repair that. The principles of restorative practicesoffer some really nice guidelines of how to do that.\u00a0 But really looking at who is impacted and how we can make it as right as possible.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"epyt-video-wrapper\">\n<div  style=\"display: block; margin: 0px auto;\"  id=\"_ytid_66727\"  width=\"525\" height=\"295\"  data-origwidth=\"525\" data-origheight=\"295\" data-facadesrc=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/TZzHz-iecFk?enablejsapi=1&#038;autoplay=0&#038;cc_load_policy=1&#038;cc_lang_pref=&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;loop=0&#038;modestbranding=1&#038;rel=0&#038;fs=1&#038;playsinline=1&#038;autohide=2&#038;theme=dark&#038;color=red&#038;controls=1&#038;\" class=\"__youtube_prefs__ epyt-facade epyt-is-override  no-lazyload\" data-epautoplay=\"1\" ><img decoding=\"async\" data-spai-excluded=\"true\" class=\"epyt-facade-poster skip-lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"  alt=\"Restorative Justice at Randolph Union\"  src=\"https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/TZzHz-iecFk\/maxresdefault.jpg\"  \/><button class=\"epyt-facade-play\" aria-label=\"Play\"><svg data-no-lazy=\"1\" height=\"100%\" version=\"1.1\" viewBox=\"0 0 68 48\" width=\"100%\"><path class=\"ytp-large-play-button-bg\" d=\"M66.52,7.74c-0.78-2.93-2.49-5.41-5.42-6.19C55.79,.13,34,0,34,0S12.21,.13,6.9,1.55 C3.97,2.33,2.27,4.81,1.48,7.74C0.06,13.05,0,24,0,24s0.06,10.95,1.48,16.26c0.78,2.93,2.49,5.41,5.42,6.19 C12.21,47.87,34,48,34,48s21.79-0.13,27.1-1.55c2.93-0.78,4.64-3.26,5.42-6.19C67.94,34.95,68,24,68,24S67.94,13.05,66.52,7.74z\" fill=\"#f00\"><\/path><path d=\"M 45,24 27,14 27,34\" fill=\"#fff\"><\/path><\/svg><\/button><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I would just add that, if you didn\u2019t have strong relationships with students before, it is going to be hard to build those relationships, but you shouldn\u2019t stop trying.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Maybe add some extra time to your week to reach out and connect with the students.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019ve also heard teachers talking about cases where all of a sudden, they&#8217;ve seen their relationships with students\u00a0 blossom. They&#8217;re connecting with students in a way that they didn\u2019t before, with particular students.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But thinking about what you said about drawing boundaries, being really clear about guidelines, and transparent with students around that, have you seen any really good models out there from a school or district that you would want to shout out for people to see? Do you have a couple in mind?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. So, you know, I think this isn\u2019t an area where a lot of folks are proactive. \u00a0And I haven\u2019t &#8212; I can\u2019t call to mind a specific school example where I\u2019ve seen something they\u2019ve put together. \u00a0One article is have is <span class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/newprairiepress.org\/edconsiderations\/vol44\/iss2\/3\/\">Role-Clarity and Boundaries for Trauma Informed Teachers<\/a>.<\/span><\/span> That\u2019s about boundaries and information-sharing. And I think it might help people conceptualize how to talk about this stuff.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I\u2019m also a big fan of encouraging people to use the local resources available to you. Child abuse prevention organizations which many of you have in your communities. Local chapters of <a href=\"https:\/\/preventchildabuse.org\/\"><span class=\"s2\">Prevent Child Abuse<\/span><\/a>, a national organization that has all kinds of stuff about internet safety for kids. They have stuff about not keeping secrets with kids, that kind of stuff. Schools could be reaching out to those groups and collaborating on things that could then be passed on the kids and families.<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life: <\/strong><\/span><span class=\"s1\">Looking at the Q&amp;A we have a few questions that have popped up during the chat. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">There\u2019s one here that I think might be interesting to talk about. You mentioned the importance of pass-fail grading, and they have a question about it.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If school boards or administrators are requiring something other than pass-fail grading, do you have recommendations to ensure the least amount of stress on students and teachers in terms of assessment?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Alex:\u00a0 Great. \u00a0So, the most recent post on my blog is about <a href=\"https:\/\/unconditionallearning.org\/2020\/04\/03\/some-thoughts-on-pushing-back-and-speaking-up\/\"><span class=\"s2\">pushing back against unjust policy<\/span><\/a> that\u2019s happening. And in that I use as an example pass-fail grading.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/twitter.com\/innovativeEd\/status\/1250825667467513857<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">When we look at issues of equity right now, it feels very odd to be using a letter grade because there\u2019s so many factors going into whether a student can engage in their learning right now, and what resources are available to them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">For instance, I know that schools have been really scrambling to try to provide special education services with varying degrees of success. So it just feels like: how could we really capture all that in better grades?<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I have seen some great examples that different districts and schools are moving to pass, fail, or to complete\/incomplete kinds of grading. I can\u2019t say for sure what is going to be right for your school, or your classroom, or your environment. \u00a0But overall, I think that these are conversations we need to be having.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">That post goes into a little bit more about if you\u2019re worried about how you\u2019re supposed making decisions about this stuff. \u00a0I have a couple of conversation starters. How to maybe send a message to your school board or your principal to say,<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"> &#8220;I have some questions about this because the way that we\u2019re operating doesn\u2019t feel like it lines up with our values.&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> I love that post! You have this phrase: &#8220;creatively non-compliant&#8221;.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know if you came up with that but that\u2019s such a cool turn of phrase.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:\u00a0<\/strong> I saw that phrase originally in a book by Debbie Meier who is a great education thinker and progressive educator. \u00a0She gave examples of: &#8220;<\/span><span class=\"s1\">I\u2019m <em>technically<\/em> complying with this thing. But actually, I\u2019m doing what I know is right for my students and what is in line with my values.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And that phrase just has always stuck with me.<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life: <\/strong>Just on that, I\u2019m wondering, with the pass-fail or the complete-incomplete: <\/span><span class=\"s1\">how do you define the criteria for incomplete? I was trying to think like, what would be fair? What would be fair for assigning a student an incomplete? And I was trying to think like, you would have to in some way determine that that student had, you know, every opportunity and all the resources needed to be able to complete the work. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">Otherwise, like you mentioned, you\u2019re just grading their environment there. And then I was thinking: how could you do that? Do you confer with the guidance counselors? Or their families?\u00a0 I was kind of a little bit stuck on that. I don\u2019t know if you have thoughts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:\u00a0<\/strong> Yes! I mean all this stuff about grading &#8212; I really feel for all of you who are in positions to make decisions about this policy stuff, because it feels like every choice is the wrong choice.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I linked to Chris Lehmann who is a principal in Philly. He wrote this really wonderful post about leadership at this time, and he talks about making the least bad decision that you can right now. \u00a0And I think that\u2019s a great framework.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/twitter.com\/innovativeEd\/status\/1250826449608675328<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But when I think about like, how do you assess, like what resources the kid has? One understanding from trauma that I come back to is that you can\u2019t ever really know if someone else is having a traumatic response to events.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">You might *think* that you can know because some of the symptoms may look more obvious, like depression or anxiety or aggression. These may be things you could observe. But one of the other symptoms of trauma response is perfectionism. Kind of doing the best that you can so that you can float under the radar and just get through.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I don\u2019t know that there\u2019s a way to look at a kid &#8212; I should rephrase that. I *know* there\u2019s not a way to look at a kid and know what\u2019s really going on.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So it just becomes really complicated to then try to make judgments about these kids. Did they do the best given what was available to them at the time? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Again, I don\u2019t know what the right answer is around grading, but I do know that we can\u2019t just keep doing what we\u2019ve been doing. Because it&#8217;s not going to work.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">To me it\u2019s like we just have to lean into the nuances and lean into the mess and just get comfortable with that mess. Because there is really not going to be any one size fits all approach is going to help us through this thing.<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> You know, the mess we\u2019re in impacts people differently. Here&#8217;s a question from our Q&amp;A:<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"> How can we best support students of color?\u00a0 Black, Indigenous, Asian, students of color who are experiencing equities and racism through an online platform.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">When you\u2019re thinking about trauma informed education, you have to consider not just trauma outside of school, but the trauma that students experience *within* schools, and even sometimes *because* of our school systems.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So! Thoughts on supporting students of color within the context of remote learning?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:\u00a0<\/strong> Yes. Great question. And I think that there\u2019s been a lot of really interesting conversations about how this is all impacting students of color differently.\u00a0 Like there\u2019s the impact of, you know, systems of oppression and racism, meaning that students of color and their families might not be getting access to the same medical support,and other types of supports. And they are being put more at risk through those systems of oppression.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">There\u2019s also some interesting perspectives about how some students of color may be experiencing a *more* affirming educational environment being educated by parents or family than they were at school.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/twitter.com\/innovativeEd\/status\/1250827281511170051<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I would point people towards Kelly Hurst who has a <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@kellywickham\/what-if-quarantine-homeschooling-is-better-for-black-children-d8706caf5c35\"><span class=\"s2\">really wonderful post on Medium<\/span><\/a> that explores this.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I would go back to that and think about, you know, again, leaning into that complexity. Just think about all the different experiences. Just listening and talking to our kids and their families about what\u2019s going on for them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">It sounds like the specific question was around harassment or racism on an online platform. \u00a0And I don\u2019t know the specifics around that question. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">But I would say that if that\u2019s happening in your online platform, right, in your Google Classroom, that\u2019s your responsibility as a teacher to be shutting it down.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Maybe that\u2019s what you need to do to ensure safety.\u00a0 But it\u2019s your responsibility to be addressing that the same way it would be if folks were saying stuff in school.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And if your school has not talked about this, like if your group of faculties or your principal\u2019s, whoever has not had a conversation about this yet, that would be a great one to put to the group and say, how are we addressing this as a school?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Given that whatever we were doing for discipline before is not a thing now in remote learning, how are we addressing this? How are we making sure that students of color are not experiencing this? Or if they are, they&#8217;re having some kind of repair happen.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But yes, it\u2019s all complicated. I would say that, you know, we do have to pay attention to this. We do have to talk about this.\u00a0 Go back to your faculty and say: let\u2019s talk about this proactively. So, should something happen, we&#8217;re not caught off guard.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life<\/strong>:\u00a0 Yes, and, you know, that makes me think about how so many schools in Vermont and across the country are doing lots of anti-racism teaching. And anti-bias teaching. Really thinking about diversity, inclusion in new ways. And it\u2019s just as this thing has hit, you know, so much of that really complex important work in some ways kind of got back-burnered for a moment while people were just trying to deal with the transition.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So how ambitious should people be with what they\u2019re trying to teach students in this moment?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Whether it\u2019s anti-racist teaching, whether it\u2019s project-based learning, you know, the things that we know are so engaging and authentic for students. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">Do you have thoughts on how people can strike that balance?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:\u00a0<\/strong> Well, I want to pick up for one second on your comment that for some folks, some of that diversity, equity and inclusion stuff has been back-burnered.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Because for a lot of folks it\u2019s not on the back burner, right? They\u2019ve put it really at the center of how they&#8217;re designing things for this moment. Equity, inclusion and access are\u00a0 really at the heart and center of what I&#8217;m doing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And I think there\u2019s a lot of tension for folks where schools that have been talking about this but maybe not doing it, *did* put it on the back burner. Which then kind of indicates that it didn\u2019t really stick yet, right?\u00a0 If we truly care about this, it\u2019s not on the back burner. And so, I think that\u2019s an interesting tension that\u2019s happening right now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">As you said, I\u2019m really interested and passionate about this idea that to be a trauma-informed school you can\u2019t just look at trauma that\u2019s happening outside of school that would be impacting kids when they come in. Y<\/span><span class=\"s1\">ou also have to ensure that what you\u2019re doing as a school is not traumatic. That it&#8217;s not causing trauma or perpetuating it within the school walls. So, that\u2019s one thing I\u2019m thinking about.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">In regards to the curriculum piece? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Again, you know, it\u2019s going to be something so different for everybody, but I think that as much as possible, folks should be thinking about how do I engage in having kids *do* stuff and *make* stuff and *explore* things as opposed to just *completing* things.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And I think that especially if we\u2019re not feeling that comfortable with technology, it can feel like, well, maybe what\u2019s easy for me is to put up, you know: Video! Response! Article! Response! I totally get that. Sometimes I&#8217;ll default to that if I\u2019m just like: &#8220;I\u2019m so stressed!\u00a0 I don\u2019t know how to do this right now!&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But I saw a model of picturing your online space as a journal, and looking at helping kids think about what they\u2019re actually doing and engaging with in whatever space they&#8217;re living in right now. Then they can come back to just journal and report out on what they did.<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Can students go build something in the living room, snap a photo and report it back?\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"> Can they have an interesting conversation with somebody and then come back and talk about it? <\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Or can they make a TikTok and then, you know, show us what they made or talk about, how it felt to do it?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I think that moving to that kind of model is cool. This morning I saw a <a href=\"http:\/\/culturallyresponsiveleadership.com\/covid19pbl\/\"><span class=\"s2\">really cool resource on project-based learning and problem-based learning connected to COVID-19<\/span><\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And my caveat to this is that some kids are going to feel really anxious and overwhelmed by being asked to engage with learning directly *about* the pandemic. Some other kids are going to feel really excited and empowered to be engaging in that learning and thinking about the stuff that\u2019s really happening.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/twitter.com\/innovativeEd\/status\/1250828862008840194<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> So, to handle that, would you say that you give students an option?\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Or if it\u2019s just like overwhelming, that there\u2019s another thread or something that they can pick up?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Yes, and in general I would say, you know, going back to those Four Priorities, right? Two of them are Flexibility and Empowerment. And so, I think about the students really having options for basically everything.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If you do need kids to be creating a certain product, then giving them choice about what\u2019s in the content, right? We learned about differentiation; you might differentiate the process, the product or the content.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But really just going back and differentiating, providing choices and also recognizing that one of those choices is to *not* choose a thing. So you may have kids or families that say, &#8220;You know what? We\u2019re actually going to do this other thing.&#8221; Or: &#8220;We need to rest&#8221; or &#8220;we need to take a break&#8221;. Really honoring that, and giving that space.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> I love what you said about the different tasks around documenting things. It really reminds me about something I strived for as a math teacher, to give tasks that have a low floor and a high ceiling. Everybody can enter. You can take a picture of something, or you can just go with it and create a cool little movie or something if you want.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">One question that caught my eye and got quite a few upvotes from webinar participants was one that described where teachers are holding an online meeting and there\u2019s something happening in the background that\u2019s concerning.\u00a0 It could be abuse, could be family disfunction, and teachers feel that they might need to follow up in other ways. \u00a0But I think the question here is:<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">What can a teacher do when they see something inappropriate to prioritize that student\u2019s dignity and well-being in that actual moment?<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yes. \u00a0One quick answer is that if you are running a Zoom meeting, you can mute other people\u2019s videos. And you can do that from the participants panel.\u00a0 <\/span><span class=\"s1\">Ideally you have the ability to just help kind of give students that privacy screen by muting their video.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/twitter.com\/innovativeEd\/status\/1250830310968823809<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But then in the follow-up? I encourage people to think: what did I see, that was concerning? And why did it feel concerning?\u00a0 This is where having accountability partners, co-teachers, checking in with the school counselor, administrator can be really helpful.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Because we also really have to be checking our own biases and assumptions right now.\u00a0 Something that maybe feels unusual or different to you, that could be totally normal and fine. We have to check those implicit biases, you know differences just in how people are in their homes and families.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I would also add that we shouldn\u2019t be requiring students to have their video on if we\u2019re doing synchronous calls. Really give students the ability to have some privacy. \u00a0If they don\u2019t want their classmates or their teacher looking into their home, we shouldn\u2019t require that, right? That\u2019s really a basic privacy thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Knd of going all the way back to one of our first questions: follow through on the information-sharing. Talk to the school counselor. Talk to the administrator, whoever it is you\u2019re supposed to be sharing information with, and make a game plan together about what you can do.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"525\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">So liiiike I tried to start with images but then I just tried to write down everything I took away from <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AlexSVenet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@AlexSVenet<\/a>\u2019s important yet so very soothing conversation on Trauma-Informed Distance Learning. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/VTED?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#VTED<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/32SyZRFtuS\">pic.twitter.com\/32SyZRFtuS<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Ashleigh Rose (@betweenmargins) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/betweenmargins\/status\/1250835497200562177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 16, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:<\/strong>\u00a0 The last question is about how to work with colleagues in this moment, to help them provide empathy for students.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">This person is saying:<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8220;I\u2019m at this webinar learning a ton.\u00a0 How can I open dialogue with colleagues? What\u2019s the best way to try to help bring other people into this conversation?&#8221;<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex: <\/strong>I think about using kind of those sentence starters of: &#8220;I notice&#8230;&#8221; and &#8220;I wonder&#8230;&#8221; with their colleagues. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If someone is sort of, you know, going off on, &#8220;Well, this kid? I know that things are fine for them. You know they\u2019re just not trying hard enough!&#8221; Or whatever it is.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Can you reflect back to them like: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8220;Hey, I notice that you seem to be really frustrated with this student. What\u2019s going on for you?\u00a0 Can you tell me more about this? Hey, I wonder, even though we may assume that things are cool with this family.\u00a0 I wonder if there\u2019s hardships that could be happening?&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I recommend posing some of those questions and trying to dig in a little with people.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Also, if you\u2019re comfortable with it, using your own vulnerability can be powerful. The more we can model that piece of it\u2019s okay to not be okay.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I\u2019m also really passionate about the idea of de-stigmatizing topics around mental health, and getting mental health support.\u00a0 Could you say to your colleague like,<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8220;Yeah, you know, it might look like things are fine, but just to be transparent, *I* look like I\u2019m fine but I\u2019m only that way because I had a call with my therapist and I have access to self-care resources. It must be *really* hard to be a kid and not necessarily have that. You know?&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Can you use your own vulnerability to help just increase people\u2019s awareness that what things maybe look like on the surface isn\u2019t there beneath?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Life:\u00a0<\/strong> I love that. And again, I just appreciate so much the conversation.<\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Alex:\u00a0<\/strong> So, here are my last couple of thoughts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">First of all, I just really appreciate everyone who took the time to be here today. \u00a0And I really appreciate the organizations that made this happen. Huge, huge, huge shout out to Tim O\u2019Leary, who was behind the scenes in all of this and really made all of the technical logistical stuff happened.\u00a0 I really appreciate you. And thanks to Life, for being here.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">For those of you who are really interested in learning more about trauma-informed practices, I have a resource round up <a href=\"http:\/\/unconditionallearning.org\">on my website<\/a> that has a bunch of different kind of getting started resources. I\u2019m also on Twitter literally all the time and so you can always ping me on there if you\u2019re looking for something in particular.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And I just encourage people to really look at all of this as a learning journey. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">There is no final version of being a trauma-informed educator perfectly.\u00a0 <\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">It\u2019s more about embracing the complexity; embracing the challenges and leaning into some of the nuances.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I&#8217;m just encouraging people to ask questions, have conversations and keep your students at the center.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The last thing that I will say is just that this is hard for a lot of people. This current situation we\u2019re in is just really difficult. So\u00a0 encourage folks to reach out to people around you to get help &#8212; or to offer help.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Keep up your connections. And please forgive yourself for anything that you do these days, even if it doesn\u2019t feel like the best version of your teaching self. Because it\u2019s hard to be the best version of your teaching self in a pandemic and that is fine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I just really encourage people give yourself some grace, give one another some empathy and grace, and keep going.\u00a0 We all got this. \u00a0So, thanks again for being here.\u00a0 I really appreciate all of you and I hope to stay connected.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"525\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Thanks to everyone who just tuned in!!! And thank you to <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/lifelegeros?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@lifelegeros<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TimOLeary_VT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@TimOLeary_VT<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/innovativeEd?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@innovativeEd<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/WTSVT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@WTSVT<\/a> for making this possible. I am grateful!<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Alex Shevrin Venet (@AlexSVenet) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AlexSVenet\/status\/1250833052579835905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 16, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The need for trauma-informed practice is particularly salient during the current global pandemic, when many if not all of us are experiencing trauma daily. And educators are working hard to translate trauma-informed practice to emergency remote learning. 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